Following are a number of back-translations of Luke 22:23:
Noongar: “23 Then they began asking among themselves, ‘Which one of us could do this thing?'” (Source: Warda-Kwabba Luke-Ang)
Uma: “When his disciples heard that, they asked one another which of them would do like that.” (Source: Uma Back Translation)
Yakan: “Then they asked-each-other as to who of them was planning to betray him.” (Source: Yakan Back Translation)
Western Bukidnon Manobo: “And then those disciples of his asked each other as to which one of them he was talking about who would turn him over.” (Source: Western Bukidnon Manobo Back Translation)
Kankanaey: “Then they asked-each-other which of them perhaps would do that.” (Source: Kankanaey Back Translation)
Tagbanwa: “When the disciples heard, they were-asking-one-another which of them would do like that.” (Source: Tagbanwa Back Translation)
Willy Wiedmann, the artist, commented on this picture: “In spite of some difficulty, and unlike Leonardo da Vinci [see here ] I did not set my last supper in a theatrical scene with Jesus in the center behind an elongated table with all the disciples, with two at each end so that that there are 11 seated behind the table. And not like the panel by Juan de Juanes (1623-79) [see here ] in which the six disciples left and right are very dynamic figures. And also not like Martin Schongauer’s Last Supper [see here ] with a slightly shorter table (also incidentally very similar to Juanes in the attitudes of the figures) and two figures seen from the back in the foreground of the panel. Instead I have given the Master the middle place to the foreground, with his back to us to finally leave the controversial Jesus-existential questions unanswered. Slightly symbolically it means that he is leaving his world. The iris color is meant to transfer the rainbow to Jesus, that God once linked to Noah (my kingdom is not of this world). I attempted to present answers that correspond to the characters of each individual.”
Image and text taken from the Wiedmann Bible. For more information about the images and ways to adopt them, see here .
For other images of Willy Wiedmann paintings in TIPs, see here.
Painting by Wang Suda 王肅達 (1910-1963),
Copyright by the Catholic University Peking, China.
Text under painting translated from Literary Chinese into English:
Beginning of the Holy Communion
You have this as food and this is my body.
Image taken from Chinese Christian Posters . For more information on the “Ars Sacra Pekinensis” school of art, see this article , for other artworks of that school in TIPs, see here.
Orthodox Icons are not drawings or creations of imagination. They are in fact writings of things not of this world. Icons can represent our Lord Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary, and the Saints. They can also represent the Holy Trinity, Angels, the Heavenly hosts, and even events. Orthodox icons, unlike Western pictures, change the perspective and form of the image so that it is not naturalistic. This is done so that we can look beyond appearances of the world, and instead look to the spiritual truth of the holy person or event. (Source )
kai autoi ērxanto suzētein pros heautous ‘and they began to discuss among themselves.’ kai autoi (not emphatic) indicates the change of subject. For archomai with infinitive cf. on 4.21. Here it refers implicitly to a reaction to the startling communication of Jesus in v. 21.
suzēteō (also 24.15) ‘to discuss,’ ‘to debate.’
to tis ara eiē ex autōn ‘as to who of them might be….’ The indirect question is made into a substantive by prefixing the article to (cf. on 1.62), and this substantive is the object of suzētein. For ara cf. on 1.66. ex autōn stands for the partitive genitive.
ho touto mellōn prassein ‘the one who was to do this.’ mellō with infinitive is somewhat more definite than the simple future.
Translation:
They began to question one another, cf. on “said to one another” in 4.36.
Would do this, or, ‘planned/intended to do thus’ (Bahasa Indonesia).
Quoted with permission from Reiling, J. and Swellengrebel, J.L. A Handbook on the Gospel of Luke. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1971. For this and other handbooks for translators see here . Make sure to also consult the Handbook on the Gospel of Mark for parallel or similar verses.
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